The TLX is a design-first sedan with polarizing trade-offs. Its aggressive exterior wins universal praise, but the cramped cabin, smaller than a Civic inside despite 5-series footprint, is a deal-breaker for many. The 2015-2020 V6 models suffer systematic rod bearing failures requiring engine replacement, though the current-gen (2021+) uses a different powertrain. The Type S looks compelling at $53k base but disappoints enthusiasts: it's a full second slower to 60 than the M340i while costing nearly as much after options and dealer markups. Community consensus: buy it for the looks and SH-AWD if you don't need rear seat space, but the Accord 2.0T or German rivals offer better value for most buyers. Production ends 2025.
The Forte splits into two extremes: one owner hit 750,000 miles on a 2018 model with obsessive oil changes every 10-15k, while others watched their engines grenade under 100k following the manual's 5,000-mile intervals. The 2.0L and 2.4L Theta II engines carry documented rod bearing and oil dilution issues covered by class-action lawsuits, Kia replaces engines under warranty, but you're betting on whether yours lasts 30k or 700k. Ignition coils on 2016+ models arc to the block instead of firing, causing misfires until you swap in upgraded parts. Pre-2022 models face theft risk and insurance headaches despite 2022+ having immobilizers. Buy it if you're the type who keeps service records in a binder and changes oil early; skip it if you treat maintenance as optional.